Be Excellent To Each Other

The Town wakes up to see a large black van marked 'FBI', with some people in black trenchcoats hustling and bustling around.

There's someone in handcuffs, and someone lying on the ground.

The one in handcuffs is SDG. She has been arrested by the FBI for being a serial kidnapper and killer.

SDG was the Evil Hypnotist and her capture by the FBI Agent gives the FBI Agent their primary win condition.

But the agent did not get long to celebrate, for Goddess Jasmine lies dead on the ground from a gunshot wound.

Goddess Jasmine was the FBI Agent.

Somewhat in shock, the Town go to SDG's house and look for clues. Everything seems normal, but soon a secret basement is found!

Oh look! There's TheVision! He's a bit the worse for wear, but he's alive! And I'm sure the whip marks and bruises will fade eventually.

And another 'cell' in the basement!

It's DavPaz! Is he alive?

No.

Wait, yes he is! He's just been smacked about a lot. Another day and he would have been a goner for sure!

People return to the Town Square.

The smell is still there.

[playerlist]
Grim...
kalmar
Malc
MaliA
Slightly Green
Nickachu
Malc74
Bobbyaro
DavPaz
TheVision
[/playerlist]

Funnily enough, we're still on ten players, so 6 for a vote.

Deadline is 8pm Friday.

Morning all. My, well that WAS quite a day and evening.

Fancy that, MaliA being right, again, about sdg.

[vote:malc74] his attempt to move the vote from sdg to me strieks me as evil. Like his big evil face.

*cough, splutter*

Blimey thanks for saving me, GJ!

Oh.

Did I miss anything?

AHAHA, I jest, I could totally hear you all through the floor of SDG's house.

That would be me being right about SDG, then?

Can't belive the nerve of these Mafia shooting an FBI agent in front of all these other FBI agents, who aren't saying anything, and escaping again.

That's a shame.. I was kind of enjoying the whipping.

Blimey! what a night.

I am now very confuddled, whats going on? how many groups of evil people are left? Mafia and Cartel? Or are they the same? Plus possibly a cultist? And a zombie....What about a necromancer?

So Grim isn't speaking, so anyone getting messages from him?

Any conversation in the dead thread of note?

Oh and welcome back to the poor people who have been tortured by Miss Whiplash

What MaliA thinks:

Grim... - Began as neutral, now could be anything
kalmar - Town - confirmed by notsobright cop
Malc - unknown
MaliA - town - your hero, and mine.
Slightly Green- Town - Trooper's lover
Nickachu - mobbed the don, probably town
Malc74 - unknown, Think he is evil
Bobbyaro - Town - confirmed by notsobright cop
DavPaz - kidnapped
TheVision - kidnapped

So, vote malc74 for mafia removal!

yes, everyone says the town should apologise to me.

Hah! Amazing scenes. Welcome back Davpaz and TheVision.

Don't let it go to your head Mali, you only piled on to SDG as a way of saving your own skin. Clock's tickin' for undead motherfuckers, motherfucker.

Now who are we going to vote for - the list has actually expanded

Oh BTW is Grim... hibernating today then?

I'm assuming he is.

Oh, cartel lackey. That means there's at least a cartel boss.

Am I right in thinking we haven't lost any vanilla townies yet?

You came close the past couple of days.

Your vanilla townie number is back up! Props to GJ

I am calling Nickachu for Cartel leader.

Yes, he is. So his win condition has changed. Worth thinking about, that.

I could go with that.
In fact let's get the ball rolling [vote:nickachu]

Do we have anything other than MaliZom's random finger pointing?

Wut?

Sorry, I mean Bobby's random finger pointing

<narrows eyes>

4 Vanilla Townies.

1 Moderately Persuasive Cult Leader. - KovacsC
1 Townie Cop - TheFireFaerie
1 Townie Amateur Psychic - zaphod79
1 Mafia Don - Alarm
1 Mafia Lackey - Craster
2 Forbidden Lovers - Trooper and Slightly Green
1 Particularly Ineffective Townie Cop - Saturnalian
1 Cartel Boss - ??
1 Cartel Lackey - Morte
1 Evil Hypnotist - SDG
1 FBI Agent - Goddess Jasmine

People still left in play -

Grim... - Psychic, not speaking today, whos getting his messages?
MaliA - Zombie (claims to have been one of the 4 Vanilla Townies)
Slightly Green - 2nd Lover
kalmar
Malc
Nickachu
Malc74
Bobbyaro
DavPaz
TheVision

So assuming that Malia was one of the Vanilla Townies and is now a Zombie and that Grim... is the Psychic as he has claimed (and Malia has vouched for) we have 7 people left.

3 of which are Vanilla Townies (possibly 4 if MaliA is a big fat liar)

4 'power roles' left out

So what are the 4?

Probably a Cartel Boss.
Possibly another Cartel Lackey?
Probably another Mafia member.
And if MaliA is to be believed a Necromancer.

Any other options that people can think of?

Nic DID force the push on the Mafia Don but this doesn't mean he isn't in the Cartel or the Necromancer. So he isn't definitely town as we have been treating him up until today.

The two who have been returned to us probably are not Mafia as they were locked up and the killing went on, but they could still be Cartel or Necro....

I'd totally believe me as I am telling the truth.

We have to be aware that Grim... will take on the win condition of whoever he is speaking to, strengthening their side. it probably won't be the town.

hmmm also as confirmed by Grim... and MaliA from the Dead Thread

kalmar - Town - confirmed by notsobright cop
Bobbyaro - Town - confirmed by notsobright cop

so

Malc
Nickachu
Malc74
DavPaz
TheVision

are the unknowns, assuming all the above information is correct.

Not bad odds, 4 possibly bad guys in a list of 5

Yes but we really want to get the bastard with a kill night action, the town would be well set then

We should kill malc74 as i have been saying for days, you know.

Especially as we know not alot about TheVision and DavPaz.

Yeah, we can just ignore everything he says, to be safe. That would be the best idea. Anyone who lsitens to him we can lynch as that wouldn't be in the ebst ideas of the town. can we kill malc74 now?

No rush Besides I would like to know who Grim... is trying to talk through, would be good to see him arguing with you from a proxy

I'm fairly sure he isn't going to tell me.

MaliA has been steering this ship true for a few days. I'll go with it.

[vote:malc74]

Good listing SG, and thanks for the reveal.
One thing - If we started with 4 vanillas then two of that list have to be good, still decent odds though.

WTF?

Everyone should listen to MaliA. He speak truths

Not if you accept MaliA's claim to have been a Vanilla who was turned. So it is 1 possibly 2 good in the list

This is too weird for words. I mean, that's not even subtle.
I'm still sticking with MaliA because I refuse to believe his win condition is town.
It seems, however, that at least one person is happy to be led by their zombie overlord...
[vote:MaliA].

Oh dear, sir. You are too easy. My vote stands

Oh dear, sir. You are too easy. My vote stands

I think my new found liberty has gone to my head

[vote: unvote]

Seriously having to mutely read along through the last few days has been agony

MaliA's arguments for Malc74 are nonsensical. I am not saying malc74 is a good guy, but MaliA;s reasoning is poor.

AND Grim... is out of the game for good - or so he claimed. He can only communicate through the "mortal kontact" for the rest of the game.

Looks like I called the kidnapers correctly!

So I am immediatly concerned about the people who were claiming that eating was going on.

We know there is a cartel and a mafia, so people who say are they the same thing also concern me.

I also can't help wonder if Malia and Grim... are on the same side, and only one of them can see the dead thread, and is relaying this info to the other, but perhaps this is too audacious.

Is it possible that the cartel can see the dead thread? The Cartel conjurs images of drugs barons, and the use of the word lackey, implies badness, and we have 2 deaths a night.

Imagine if Malia, Grim... and SG (or Kalmar/Bobby) are the cartel and they have made up this dead thread access thing up?

Malc

Analysis, I am ignoring kidnaps, they have been sorted out, it was SDG.

Day one:
Cult leader killed
Night one:
2 killls, both shot

Day 2:
Mafia Don killed (-1 mafia)
Night 2:
1 kill - shot

Day 3:
Nothing
Night 3:
2 kills - both shot, (-1 mafia)

Day 4:
1 kill - (-1 Cartel)
Night 4:
1 kill

This suggests to me that the mafia are gone and the cartel are the bad guys left (there was a lackey, there is probably a Don)

It also suggests that MaliA was resurrected as he claimed - it does not resolve whether he is a Town zombie or not.

Thoughts?

I thought Grim... could protect himself for one night then the next day he could only speak through a proxy. He would then take on the win condition of a random player (the proxy?). I don't remember him saying he couldn't speak again the next day (assuming he survives another night)

Just had a quick look but can't find his post, too much talking in the previous thread!

Alternatively I guess botht he Cartel and the Mafia could have killed GJ, but...?