Be Excellent To Each Other

Another day, another corpse.

This one has been shot in the back.

It's SDG.

She had on her person some government credentials and unusually technological trapping gear.

SDG was a Mutant Hunter.

Blimey.

But there's another corpse, or at least bits of one. There's an arm, and there's a leg, and... ah, there's the head.

The head of Alberto.

He has on his person a town library card and town gym membership. And some white ice cream.

Alberto was a Vanilla Townie.

[playerlist]
DavPaz
Trooper
Malc
Craster
KovacsC
Ian Fairies
Bobbyaro
TheFireFaerie
Malc74
Goddess Jasmine
Nickachu
Grim...
TheVision
Slightly Green
[/playerlist]

14 people left. 8 votes for action.

Day ends Friday at 10pm

Damn, that is a bad night for the town, I think, wtf is a mutant hunter?

Well the SK's done us something of a painful favour, I guess. We now know that Alberto and co were telling the truth. The way they went about it appears to have cost us the cop though.

WTF? Errr... Grim... why did you think SDG was in the club again?

And seriously Mr Russell, you know the point where you are a couple of votes away from a lynch, that's the point you tell us your role if you are a good power role.

Jeez.

So, what the fuck now.

We said yesterday that Goddess Jasmine would be lynched after Russel. Seeing as he wasn't as bad as we thought, so we still go ahead with this?

What club?

FFS. [vote:KovacsC] for totally failing to notice the entire 12-page thread yesterday

Also, based on the role description for the mutant hunter, there must be 2+ 'mutants' of some description in town.

No I did notice the entire 14 page thread and did ask for a summary Unfortunatley I had not realized the vision had voted, and I finished the day

And killing the cop.

[vote: kovacsC]

I really recommend you go back and read the thread

I was the last to vote, other 8 folks had voted before me.

Really I skimmed the day and it just looked like Trooper was nuts

I didn't. Alberto did.

GJ is still super bad though... maybe... I dunno any more...

Quite.

Do you actually have a reason for this? I would still like Trooper to tell me what my 'inconsistencies' are.

I still don't trust Trooper either, I'm sure some of you will read into that what you want.

I'm not even sure why there was a sudden rush on Russ, because he talked funny? I will go back and read in a bit *cries at the thought of having to go back into that thread*.

After yesterday I def FOS Malc too.

Does that make me bad, for a day 2 lynch, not knowing Mr R was good?

The other 8 voted too, thee must be some mafia in that lot.

Are you at least going to say why? Or just hope everyone believes you without me being able to defend myself?

Being slightly fair to Kovacs, it was logic like this that got the cop lynched:

I am being voted on, for not reading 14 pages and asking a question, and being the last to vote.

But you are being quite defensive without giving us a reason to keep you in the game, apart from the fact that you voted last.

[Vote:Kovacs]

[vote:Kovacsc]

Corrected that..

According to the rules thread, SDG was the only Mutant Hunter. So we now have these mutants roaming around doing goodness knows what, and presumably the only way they're now going to get killed is if the Mafia or SK get them.
The thing that's worrying me is we know nothing about the mutants and what their win condition is - or if they're able to recruit or not.

Right, now that it seems to be totally out in the open, and the phrase is on the rules thread, and there is no chance we will believe anyone else who uses it.

You used the "Sucks to be me" phrase, you claimed to be in the club, the vanilla townie club. However, you also claimed to be a townie lover. The townie lover did not get emailed that phrase in their class description, they got emailed something completely different. When you were pushed to explain, you would have known where that phrase came from, you seemed quite happy to use it in open conversation, but you wouldn't (actually couldn't) expand more on why you had used it.
All you did was go back through the thread and pick up on the phrase and then use it in a couple of ways in your post. You got lucky, If you had posted to say you were a vanilla townie, you might have got away with it.

Oi mutants - are you goodies or baddies?

[vote: goddess jasmine]

No, she claimed that it was easy to get into the club even if you weren't a vanilla townie, didn't she?

That is pretty damning - but there presumably is another townie lover out there somewhere, and there's been no counterclaim.

It's not damning - she was trying to warn us. Look: viewtopic.php?p=721551#p721551

Oh yeah, so she was. Completely. With that and no counterclaim, no reason to doubt her whatsoever.

This is the only thing that is giving me pause.

Show me where I have claimed to be a vanilla townie?

Yes, I used the phrase, in the hope that it let others know that I was a townie too, but then I decided to let you know that I wasn't vanilla and that your 'code' could be broken. Why, exactly, would I have done that if I wasn't trying to help and defend the town? I didn't expand on where it had come from as I thought that was pretty obvious!

For someone who is usually so hot on facts, you are being pretty inventive with them.

[vote: Trooper]

The follow up comment by Grim... should give you a lot more pause.

I am being defensive?

Frankly I'm suspicious of everyone now. Except for Nick and Alberto. And he's dead.

No, she was trying to use the sucks phrase in two different ways

"he did tell you you all suck, is that because you haven't got his ploy?

I know I'm going to be up for the lynch now, if for no other reason than to check if Trooper is lying (sucks to be me). I hope when you find out tomorrow that he is wrong, that you remember what I've said.
"

She knew the phrase had suck in it, but it had been used a few ways, so she wasn't sure how she had to use it.

She broke the code, and then claimed to be a role that couldn't be proved. It was too fishy.

[vote:unvote] for now

You haven't claimed to be a vanilla townie, that is my point!
You didn't expand on where it came from, and now you are saying you didn't do that because it was obvious? I think it is pretty clear that it wasn't obvious were it came from. Are you claiming that you knew it came from the original email sent to all the vanilla townies?

This is my problem, almost cracking the code, trying to get into the club a couple of ways in the post and claiming a good role that couldn't be proved, then saying you new where the code came from but weren't going to say. It's all a bit convenient. An equally likely scenario is that you have a power role and tried to get into the club to save yourself, but didn't realise where the code came from, so didn't realise using the unprovable townie role would be fishy,

Sigh.

I did know how to use it, but is it really something that you think I would say? I was trying to use it in a way that wasn't too obvious, alluding to the show as well, obviously I was being too careful.
"He did tell you you that you all suck"

Yes, you did, look;

viewtopic.php?p=721512#p721512

You didn't say 'sucks to be me'. you said "You guys totally suck, to be honest, to me that wasn't in the slightest bit obvious, you utter utter tools!"

I took that as meaning that they all suck (are townies) but you are not.

Yes, because I'm not...



I can't help that Gaz got killed as much as you don't like it. Of course I wasn't going to say where it came from, I didn't want to give it away at that time.

I can't help thinking you are just talking about yourself here...

What? You blatantly use the phrase in it's entirety! Trying to use it in a way that wasn't too obvious? You typed (sucks to be me) in the post! If that is trying to use it in a way that isn't obvious, then i'm the queen of sheba

My use of the code?

"You guys totally suck, to be honest, to me that wasn't in the slightest bit obvious, you utter utter tools!

Grim... totally got it.

J'accuse!

[vote:goddess jasmine]

There is no possible way you knew where it came from. You are claiming that you did. No way, no chance, no how.

Reposted for clarity;



Where else could all the vanilla townies get information from that no other player could? No, please do tell as I couldn't and still haven't come up with anything. Mine had my role in it, so of course was going to be different.[/quote]

[/quote]

That easy to say in hindsight. You didn't know at the time, you are claiming that you did, I say bullshit.

Er, not the first time I didn't.

viewtopic.php?p=721545#p721545

I was hoping that people would get it from that.

That easy to say in hindsight. You didn't know at the time, you are claiming that you did, I say bullshit. [/quote]
Yes, because I'm no good at working things out am I?

I can't be bothered with this anymore.

Trooper is as scummy as they come, instead of using common sense that he is known for he is just trying to tie the town in knots over what I think is an obvious townie role to distract from the real bad guys.

I had no reason to do what I did yesterday other than to help the town, I have gained nothing from doing it.

If someone is going to counterclaim against me please do so, you have nothing to lose after all.

Yay people are arguing and it's not with me for once

What exactly are you expecting people to get from that post? I can't see anything there that gives any indication that you are in the club.

Don't worry, i'll get to you later

Avenue Q?

Looks like I WAS being too obscure.

No shit!