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Author:  Curiosity [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:33 ]
Post subject:  Colour Scum Day Four

Another beautiful day in Utopia!

The evil Magenta has been ejected, and while there may be fewer people in the Eco-dome, think of the space! Two rooms each! Woop woop!

Oh, and please ignore the red stain over there in the corner. It was Malc, who was a green. He appears to have been bludgeoned to death with a paint can.

Never mind! More tomato ration for the rest of us!

[playerlist]
Mr Russell
MaliA
Trooper
DavPaz
Kovacsc
Slightly Green
Bobbyaro
Craster
Goddess Jasmine
[/playerlist]

5 votes to use the airlock.

Day ends 2pm Friday, or upon a consensus.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:42 ]
Post subject:  Re: Colour Scum Day Four

Ooof! Not good.

From last night's voting, now malc is gone, I'm suspicious of Craster, DavPaz, Slightly Green and KC. Craster's been pretty consistent with voting for Gaz, so he's a bit sus.

Although, I'm the most suspicious of Slightly Green.

Hmm.

Decisions, decisions.

Author:  Slightly Green [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:42 ]
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[vote:MaliA]

Author:  Mr Russell [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:43 ]
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Are you two going to argue with each other to distance yourselves from each other now?

Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:46 ]
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Lolz, Malia. You're going to try and hide the fact that you pushed hardest for a lynch on Gaz? Per-leeze. You scummy scummer.

[vote:malia]

Author:  Slightly Green [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:46 ]
Post subject:  Re: Colour Scum Day Four

Mr Russell wrote:
Are you two going to argue with each other to distance yourselves from each other now?


Have you been involved in a different game? I have been saying MaliA is Scum from day one.

I am also seriously suspicious of Trooper but that is just a gut feeling, MaliA has been acting dodgy from the outset

Author:  Mr Russell [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:47 ]
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Slightly Green wrote:
Mr Russell wrote:
Are you two going to argue with each other to distance yourselves from each other now?


Have you been involved in a different game? I have been saying MaliA is Scum from day one.

I am also seriously suspicious of Trooper but that is just a gut feeling, MaliA has been acting dodgy from the outset


MaliA is at least talking, but he did indeed push for gazChap to be lynched.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:54 ]
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I did that based upon:

Wanting an no-lynch early on gives and advantage to scum
A roleclaim of the second most powerful character
Finding the serial killer

The second and third points seemed highly unlikely, not impossible, but improbable, but add them together with the no lynch, it smelt funny to me.

So I weighed the risk of it being true, and the potential harm caused against the risk of him being a Red, and it seemed worthwhile to take that chance.

Turns out, it was highly unlikely that those events did occour, but that's the way risks go with what we have to go on.

Sending me from the airlock would be a bad idea, as I'm being left uneccissarily exposed for being wrong, here, and slgihtly green shouting that I'm Red doesn't help anyone but his red buddies.

[vote:Slightly Green]

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:57 ]
Post subject:  Re: Colour Scum Day Four

[vote:unvote]

DavPaz and Mr Russell just made me suspicious.

[vote:Davpaz]

Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:31 ]
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Why are you suss of me?

Author:  Cras [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:31 ]
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MaliA wrote:
[vote:Slightly Green]


Seriously? Voting for someone who was right to defend GazChap?

MaliA wrote:
DavPaz and Mr Russell just made me suspicious.


Has anyone so far not made you suspicious?

[vote:MaliA]

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:34 ]
Post subject:  Re: Colour Scum Day Four

I think the reds are Craster, Davpaz and someone else. I'm suspicious of Slightly Green, and mr Russsel. KC, less so. The reds know they can get rid of another green easily here, and so are doing it. And Slightly Green, wittingly or not, is helping them.

Author:  Slightly Green [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:34 ]
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Why I don't trust MaliA -

Day one -

After Gaz role claims Chief of Police, MaliA try to persuade people to vote for him because

Quote:
MaliA The deputy knows who he is, and his been somewhat silent in coming to his aid..


WTF?? So on day one he manages to push Gaz into a role claim (admitidly Gaz was a bit of a muppet claiming that a no-vote was a good idea) followed by attempting to get the Deputy to out himself also? How would that benifit anyone other than a Red?

A few posts later he pushes for the Deputy to reveal him/her self again

Quote:
MaliA Or the deputy coming forward. Who hasn't.


It then starts getting odd, your logic fails you completly with your analysis -

Quote:
MaliA Exile Gazchap:

If he is policeman, greens are down one. Two people die over night, greens down three.

Don't exile anyone

If he is poiceman, he dies overnight, and no investigation results happen. Two people die. Greens down three

If he isn't polcieman, greens down two, as Gazchap wasn't telling the truth, so we can see who switched their votes when teh roleclaim came in, out of the, ahem, blue.


at which point Troop steps in to point out that MaliA has been ignoring scenarios which people suggest which don't match upto his ideas

Quote:
Trooper - Other than the reason I posted a few minutes ago you mean?

You are acting incredibly dodgy, but there is no way we can get a lynch on you in time.


And this was just Day one, he gets worse over the next days, and it results in us lynching our Chief of Police, and after spending 2 days banging on about how I am in cahoots with Gaz (lol which I was not, as the Deputy among you will know) he has now decided that I am actually red for guessing correct at the start and defending Gaz from his flawed logic and angry rhetoric.

I am honestly not 100% sure if MaliA is Red but if he isn't we would be better of without him as he has thrown so much shit around it is hard to see who else could be scum.

Author:  Trooper [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:36 ]
Post subject:  Re: Colour Scum Day Four

Right, bad result overnight, 9 people left, we could be another 2 townies down by this time tomorrow.
We still have a cop, plus a possible 1 other blue townie I would expect.

Time to do something while it still could make a difference.

I'm the mayor.

Now you can either take that on trust, which I expect you won't. So this is how I see the options.
1. Trust me, assume i'm good and carry on.
2. The cop investigates me tonight and gets nothing back, which proves it to one other person at least.
3. Lynch a random person, i'll veto it and prove it that way.
4. Lynch me, and tomorrow take a close look at the people who voted for me, as lynching me is the only way to get me out of the game at the moment, and probably for the next few nights too.

1 is the best option for the town (and for me) but you dont know that. 3 proves it without doubt, but loses us a chance of taking out a red and gives them a free kill. 2 gives us two people who know the truth, but only in private. 4 loses another good guy, plus a free kill overnight, but does give good information.

Choose people.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:37 ]
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I wasn't pushing for the deputy to step forward, it was more an observation.

I've explained my reasoning and I'm being less understandable even though I'm trying really hard to explain it.

I'm not a red. getting rid of me is a bad idea.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:39 ]
Post subject:  Re: Colour Scum Day Four

Trooper wrote:
3. Lynch a random person, i'll veto it and prove it that way.



I'm all for this option, honestly, right now.

Author:  Trooper [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:41 ]
Post subject:  Re: Colour Scum Day Four

MaliA wrote:
Trooper wrote:
3. Lynch a random person, i'll veto it and prove it that way.



I'm all for this option, honestly, right now.


No shit, Mr Probably-Lynched :D

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:42 ]
Post subject:  Re: Colour Scum Day Four

Slightly Green wrote:
I am honestly not 100% sure if MaliA is Red but if he isn't we would be better of without him as he has thrown so much shit around it is hard to see who else could be scum.


I'm not seeing any ideas form you, only "lynch MaliA, he's an idiot". it's not a real reason it's why I think you're a red.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:43 ]
Post subject:  Re: Colour Scum Day Four

Beleive you me, I was genuinely surprised I was wrong about GazChap.

Author:  Slightly Green [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:47 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Right, bad result overnight, 9 people left, we could be another 2 townies down by this time tomorrow.
We still have a cop, plus a possible 1 other blue townie I would expect.

Time to do something while it still could make a difference.

I'm the mayor.

Now you can either take that on trust, which I expect you won't. So this is how I see the options.
1. Trust me, assume i'm good and carry on.
2. The cop investigates me tonight and gets nothing back, which proves it to one other person at least.
3. Lynch a random person, i'll veto it and prove it that way.
4. Lynch me, and tomorrow take a close look at the people who voted for me, as lynching me is the only way to get me out of the game at the moment, and probably for the next few nights too.

1 is the best option for the town (and for me) but you dont know that. 3 proves it without doubt, but loses us a chance of taking out a red and gives them a free kill. 2 gives us two people who know the truth, but only in private. 4 loses another good guy, plus a free kill overnight, but does give good information.

Choose people.


Option 1 - hmmm

Option 2 - Is flawed as we have the Green Miscreant who is bound to target you tonight so regardless of your claim that would only show you as red

Option 3 - I suggest we just Vote MaliA off as he seems the dodgiest player at the moment, maybe you could prove yourself by vetoing

Option 4 - hmmm

Option 5 - If your not the mayor it is possible for someone to come forward with a counter claim, and since we know at least one Blue is left either you or the other mayor would be safe from night actions.

What interests me Troop is why have you decided to claim now? I don't see people lining up to evict you at the moment so it is not to defend yourself, I don't really see how it benefits the town, as you don't have any useful information for us.....

Honestly you deciding to claim like this is just making me even more suspect of you.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:48 ]
Post subject:  Re: Colour Scum Day Four

Green miscreant died, Slightly Green.

Author:  Slightly Green [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:49 ]
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[vote:unvote] until I get a answer from Trooper -

Why this Claim? I don't see how it helps the town at all

Author:  Slightly Green [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:49 ]
Post subject:  Re: Colour Scum Day Four

MaliA wrote:
Green miscreant died, Slightly Green.



wow i missed that one

(Goes to re-read the previous days)

Author:  Slightly Green [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:51 ]
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Ahh yeh Zaphod on night 3

Author:  Trooper [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:51 ]
Post subject:  Re: Colour Scum Day Four

Slightly Green wrote:
Trooper wrote:
Right, bad result overnight, 9 people left, we could be another 2 townies down by this time tomorrow.
We still have a cop, plus a possible 1 other blue townie I would expect.

Time to do something while it still could make a difference.

I'm the mayor.

Now you can either take that on trust, which I expect you won't. So this is how I see the options.
1. Trust me, assume i'm good and carry on.
2. The cop investigates me tonight and gets nothing back, which proves it to one other person at least.
3. Lynch a random person, i'll veto it and prove it that way.
4. Lynch me, and tomorrow take a close look at the people who voted for me, as lynching me is the only way to get me out of the game at the moment, and probably for the next few nights too.

1 is the best option for the town (and for me) but you dont know that. 3 proves it without doubt, but loses us a chance of taking out a red and gives them a free kill. 2 gives us two people who know the truth, but only in private. 4 loses another good guy, plus a free kill overnight, but does give good information.

Choose people.


Option 1 - hmmm

Option 2 - Is flawed as we have the Green Miscreant who is bound to target you tonight so regardless of your claim that would only show you as red

Option 3 - I suggest we just Vote MaliA off as he seems the dodgiest player at the moment, maybe you could prove yourself by vetoing

Option 4 - hmmm

Option 5 - If your not the mayor it is possible for someone to come forward with a counter claim, and since we know at least one Blue is left either you or the other mayor would be safe from night actions.

What interests me Troop is why have you decided to claim now? I don't see people lining up to evict you at the moment so it is not to defend yourself, I don't really see how it benefits the town, as you don't have any useful information for us.....

Honestly you deciding to claim like this is just making me even more suspect of you.


The green miscreant who was killed the other night, you mean?

And you can't see why it is a good idea to have a known good person when they can't be killed overnight, rather than when the blues are dead and it makes no difference. The mayor will never have any information, I have no investigative role, nor access to anyone who does.

Seems like me coming out has flushed out some suspicious people already...

Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:52 ]
Post subject:  Re: Colour Scum Day Four

Colour Scum Day Four

VOTE UPDATE

davpaz: 1 (MaliA)
malia: 2 (DavPaz, Craster)

Not voted: 6 (mr russell, trooper, kovacsc, slightly green, bobbyaro, goddess jasmine)

With 9 players alive, 5 votes are required for a lynch, and 5 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody.

http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:53 ]
Post subject:  Re: Colour Scum Day Four

[vote:unvote]

[vote:Slightly Green]

I'm going back with original ideas. That, and the witch hunt he's organising against me.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:58 ]
Post subject:  Re: Colour Scum Day Four

MaliA wrote:
[vote:unvote]

[vote:Slightly Green]

*whoo whoo voice from the dead whoo*
You don't have to unvote before voting for someone else, it can upset the counter.
*whoo pussies whoo*

Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:01 ]
Post subject:  Re: Colour Scum Day Four

Grim... wrote:
MaliA wrote:
[vote:unvote]

[vote:Slightly Green]

*whoo whoo voice from the dead whoo*
You don't have to unvote before voting for someone else, it can upset the counter.
*whoo pussies whoo*



:DD

Author:  Cras [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:02 ]
Post subject:  Re: Colour Scum Day Four

MaliA wrote:
Trooper wrote:
3. Lynch a random person, i'll veto it and prove it that way.



I'm all for this option, honestly, right now.


What, you think our best option right now is wasting a lynch? You're redder than a sunburned communist red panda!

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:06 ]
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Unsurprisingly, I'm thinking the best option is not lynching me, as you'll lose a green.

Author:  Slightly Green [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:06 ]
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[vote:MaliA]

But would be nice for the quiet ones to come out of the woodwork and contribute

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:10 ]
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I think Davpaz, Craster and Slightly Green are most likely red. Two of the three at least. Russell, Bobby and KC are also suspicious, but have been quieter.

Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:12 ]
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Woah, crazy random accusation throwing guy! Naming half the remaining players as baddies makes you look like a very desperate man.

Also, I wonder which of your list is your teammate... Hmm...

Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:13 ]
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Slightly Green wrote:
[vote:MaliA]

But would be nice for the quiet ones to come out of the woodwork and contribute



Does this ever work?

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:14 ]
Post subject:  Re: Colour Scum Day Four

DavPaz wrote:
Woah, crazy random accusation throwing guy! Naming half the remaining players as baddies makes you look like a very desperate man.

Also, I wonder which of your list is your teammate... Hmm...


I dynamically reasses my suspicions based upon what's been going on and how credible I think it is.

The Reds see an opportunity to get rid of an enemy here, and are taking it.

Author:  Mr Russell [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:42 ]
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Well now I don't know whether to trust either maliA or SG, but whenever more than two votes got put down they changed their own vote.

I am happy to vote for either of them based at the current time.

Author:  Slightly Green [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:45 ]
Post subject:  Re: Colour Scum Day Four

I have only Voted for Malia today, I did unvote for a short time after Troopers role claim to have a think about if that makes any big changes, as I said at the start of the day I am suspicious of Trooper.

Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:47 ]
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Oh yes and everyone tells the truth in this game!

Author:  Goddess Jasmine [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:47 ]
Post subject:  Re: Colour Scum Day Four

Slightly Green wrote:
[vote:MaliA]

But would be nice for the quiet ones to come out of the woodwork and contribute

On this note could I politely request that you all don't go speed lynching people until everyone has had a say. The day was over before I got home yesterday and there had been loads of time left. It makes those of us who don't have a desk job look like we're not playing.

Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:52 ]
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Sorry, mum.

[vote:unvote]

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:57 ]
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When you need few votes, it's kinds tricky to slow it down.

Author:  Goddess Jasmine [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:59 ]
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The last person voting knows what they are doing though.

Author:  Cras [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:00 ]
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Unless it's Malc or Kovacs.

Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:07 ]
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Cock off!!!

Author:  Goddess Jasmine [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:09 ]
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:D

Author:  Mr Russell [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:10 ]
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So before I vote for MaliA, what's your thoughts GJ?

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:18 ]
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She thinks that although maliA was wrong, it was for the right reasons and that Slightly Green is behaving like an evil RED and deserves to get dinosaured.

Author:  Slightly Green [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:18 ]
Post subject:  Re: Colour Scum Day Four

Fairplay GJ [vote:unvote]

Let us know what your thoughts are :D

Author:  Goddess Jasmine [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:22 ]
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Mr Russell wrote:
So before I vote for MaliA, what's your thoughts GJ?

Well, firstly you are all complete idiots for voting for Gaz, but there we go. :P

Secondly, I've just bee re-reading through a few days ago (I lost interest a bit when I wasn't being able to post tbh, so I've just have to remind myself).

I'm thinking that so far I'm pretty certain that SG really is green. Bit FOS of Craster and Trooper for their voting for Gaz, I agree with Craster in that I didn't beleive him either, but it was still a silly way to vote. Trooper had some weird reconing which I will happily go over later if anyone wants me to, but I have to pop out again now.

I will be voting MaliA later I think. He was being absurd, but that might be down to him being bored at work. :shrug:

I'm not going to yet as Bobby hasn't had a say. But when everyone has, unless my mind is changed I still will.

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