Shell, the oil company, execute protestors.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Wed Jun 10, 2009 16:53

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The oil giant acknowledged no wrongdoing in the hangings of six people opposed to oil exploration in the west African country, including playwright and activist Ken Saro-Wiwa.

But it said it agreed to settle the action in the hope of aiding the "process of reconciliation" and also recognised that the victims' families had suffered.

Mr Saro-Wiwa's son, Ken Jr, who helped bring the lawsuit in the US District Court in New York, hailed the pay-out as "a victory".

BitterWallet has this to say.

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Time for an ethical question. If a company with a UK presence had been involved in the execution of environmental activists, would it make you think twice about using their products?

Personally, this writer would say hell yes, but at the end of the day it’s down to yourself and your conscience. Of course it’s a hypothetical question and nothing to do with the fact that Royal Dutch Shell have agreed to pay out almost £10 million dollars following a lawsuit over the 1995 hangings of six oil exploration protestors in Nigeria. Crucially, Shell acknowledged no wrongdoing. AND NO ONE IS SAYING THEY WERE INVOLVED. RIGHT?

In the lawsuit, heard in New York, Shell were accused of colluding with the country’s former military government to silence activists in the country and helped furnish Nigerian police with weapons, participated in security sweeps of the area, and hired troops that shot at villagers protesting over the construction of a pipeline. THEY DENIED BEING INVOLVED IN ALL OF THIS. RIGHT?

Shell hope that the pay-out will help the “process of reconciliation” and their executive director of exploration and production, Malcolm Brinded, said: “This gesture also acknowledges that even though Shell had no part in the violence that took place, the plaintiffs and others have suffered.” SHELL HAD NO INVOLVEMENT IN THE VIOLENCE. OKAY?

Grim... · **Posted:** Wed Jun 10, 2009 17:01

Holy shit.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Wed Jun 10, 2009 17:02

Bloody hell.

Do Shell only sell fuels through their own stations or do they sell to other companies? I say this as I only ever refuel at Morrissons, but I don't think they go out themselves to source the oil and refine it.

Malc · **Posted:** Wed Jun 10, 2009 17:03

Shell are one of our biggest customers!

Malc

kalmar · **Posted:** Wed Jun 10, 2009 17:07

Zardoz wrote:

Bloody hell.

Do Shell only sell fuels through their own stations or do they sell to other companies? I say this as I only ever refuel at Morrissons, but I don't think they go out themselves to source the oil and refine it.

I see what you're getting at, but I do feel that boycotting one particular petrol station brand is missing the point a bit.

Random example:

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One of BP's largest refineries in the USA exploded in 2005 causing 15 deaths. The fall-out from the accident continues to cloud BP's corporate image because of the mismanagement at the plant. [..] Maintenance and safety at the plant had been cut as a cost-saving measure, the responsibility ultimately resting with executives in London.

BP's image has been tarnished somewhat by its involvement with the controversial Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline, criticized for human rights abuses, environmental and safety concerns.

In July 2006, a group of Colombian farmers won a multi million pound settlement from BP after the British oil and gas company was accused of benefiting from a regime of terror carried out by Colombian government paramilitaries to protect a 450-mile (720 km) pipeline.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Wed Jun 10, 2009 17:09

Syndicate really wasn't that far fetched, was it?

Grim... · **Posted:** Wed Jun 10, 2009 17:10

Mind you, we all enjoy Fanta, the NAZI DRINK!

Curiosity · **Posted:** Wed Jun 10, 2009 17:11

*munches on lovely Nestle baby-killing products*

NervousPete · **Posted:** Wed Jun 10, 2009 17:11

Fuck me.

At least we can rely on the UK government to help protest this sort of thing, right kids? I'm sure the outraged British public will take it to the streets, just as soon as they've finished protesting about expenses/paedos/Europe/foreigners/oil prices/pylons/Susan Boyle...

*Chokes on bile*

kalmar · **Posted:** Wed Jun 10, 2009 17:12

nervouspete wrote:

Fuck me.

At least we can rely on the UK government to help protest this sort of thing, right kids? I'm sure the outraged British public will take it to the streets, just as soon as they've finished protesting about expenses/paedos/Europe/foreigners/oil prices/pylons/Susan Boyle...

*Chokes on bile*

GAAAAAHH

If only people were a bit better educated and had more access to reading material eh?

Rage quit! (well, it's 5.15, time to go anyway)

NervousPete · **Posted:** Wed Jun 10, 2009 17:14

kalmar wrote:

nervouspete wrote:

Fuck me.

At least we can rely on the UK government to help protest this sort of thing, right kids? I'm sure the outraged British public will take it to the streets, just as soon as they've finished protesting about expenses/paedos/Europe/foreigners/oil prices/pylons/Susan Boyle...

*Chokes on bile*

GAAAAAHH

Oops, just read your post. And I recall now that other petrol companies have shit records as well. And for those hopefuls, don't forget Bhopal and the agonising struggle to get anything out of Union Carbide.

Me, I don't have a car so I get to be smug on this issue. ("Pete! Still want a lift to Indietracks?" - Sue) Errr, ummm.

kalmar · **Posted:** Wed Jun 10, 2009 17:17

nervouspete wrote:

Me, I don't have a car so I get to be smug on this issue.

Can I get to be smug for having an electric car? Please?

Zardoz · **Posted:** Wed Jun 10, 2009 17:19

£10 million dollars also has to be the most expensive Shell Suit.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Wed Jun 10, 2009 17:20

kalmar wrote:

nervouspete wrote:

Me, I don't have a car so I get to be smug on this issue.

Can I get to be smug for having an electric car? Please?

If the car is made from wood from a sustained forrest, yes.

Grim... · **Posted:** Wed Jun 10, 2009 17:21

Zardoz wrote:

£10 million dollars also has to be the most expensive Shell Suit.

Ooh, good one.

GazChap · **Posted:** Wed Jun 10, 2009 17:22

Zardoz wrote:

Do Shell only sell fuels through their own stations or do they sell to other companies? I say this as I only ever refuel at Morrissons, but I don't think they go out themselves to source the oil and refine it.

Morrisons fuel comes from Texaco, but whether they're related to Shell or not I couldn't tell you.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Wed Jun 10, 2009 17:23

Well, I get £5 vouchers with my Morrissons Miles, so fuck it.

NervousPete · **Posted:** Wed Jun 10, 2009 17:25

kalmar wrote:

nervouspete wrote:

Me, I don't have a car so I get to be smug on this issue.

Can I get to be smug for having an electric car? Please?

No, death-machine Pylons abduct and brainwash or hunt and kill many people every year. Unfortunately they've got a strong pro-hunting lobby, so the Tories protect them.

Yes you may.

Grim... · **Posted:** Wed Jun 10, 2009 17:28

No, he can't, because he has all the electric cars, stopping everyone else from using them.

Look at his back yard!

BikNorton · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 10140

I'm only allowed to put super unleaded from Tesco or Shell in my car, and it's not happy on Tesco's one.

I suppose this is going to mean in some peoples' eyes that I am personally responsible for hanging those guys 5 years before I owned a car. Then again, as it's one of those nasty tree-hating cars I've presumably already condemned all the children and budgies.

?:|

Dimrill · **Posted:** Wed Jun 10, 2009 17:29

BikNorton wrote:

I'm only allowed to put super unleaded from Tesco or Shell in my car, and it's not happy on Tesco's one.

I suppose this is going to mean in some peoples' eyes that I am personally responsible for hanging those guys 5 years before I owned a car.

You MONSTER.

GazChap · **Posted:** Wed Jun 10, 2009 17:38

BikNorton wrote:

I'm only allowed to put super unleaded from Tesco or Shell in my car, and it's not happy on Tesco's one.

Interesting, I can only use super unleaded in mine but the difference between V-Power and Tesco's own-brand is virtually unnoticeable.

BikNorton · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 10140

(Spoilered for tangential gas guzzlering)

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It seems to vary car by car as well - on briskoda it's (anecdotally) about 50-50 for Octy RSes. We can't tell a difference between either or even 95 RON (it has a 98 RON map and 95 fallback). It was pretty obvious on the BMW (lower performance and higher consumption on Tesco). It only runs on 98 and higher, which is why I can't use any other super. Now it tends to run like shit on a whim. Hooray!

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

GazChap wrote:

Zardoz wrote:

Do Shell only sell fuels through their own stations or do they sell to other companies? I say this as I only ever refuel at Morrissons, but I don't think they go out themselves to source the oil and refine it.

Morrisons fuel comes from Texaco, but whether they're related to Shell or not I couldn't tell you.

I think Texaco are part of Esso but I'm WAY too lazy to check.

Bobbyaro · **Joined:** 18th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 11864

Esso!! They kill tigers! Or something. This is bad and all, but it happens all the time so it is all okay. Right? Seriously, £10 million for killing 5 people from a company who reported £13.9billion profit last year.

BikNorton · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 10140

The freaks' garage round the corner turned into a Texaco franchise the other week, and has been charging 104.9 for both unleaded and diesel for a week. It's always been a significant ripoff, but that's a new low. And yet people still put fuel in there despite there being an, um, Shell just round the corner, which rose to 99.9 today (2p this week!). Freaks' garage, see (the most consistent theory is that it's a front for drug dealing).

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

Bobbyaro wrote:

Esso!! They kill tigers! Or something. This is bad and all, but it happens all the time so it is all okay. Right? Seriously, £10 million for killing 5 people from a company who reported £13.9billion profit last year.

The important part is legally they did nothing. It wouldn't have been if they'd been convicted of anything.

kalmar · **Posted:** Wed Jun 10, 2009 21:07

Is there nothing about admission of culpability, if they've paid people off for directly the thing they're accused of? In the law rules book I mean?

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

kalmar wrote:

Is there nothing about admission of culpability, if they've paid people off for directly the thing they're accused of? In the law rules book I mean?

Not that I'm aware of.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49237

That's why they deliberately said "Even though we had nothing to do with it, these people have suffered so we're giving them some money".

KovacsC · **Posted:** Wed Jun 10, 2009 22:27

Malc wrote:

Shell are one of our biggest customers!

Malc

We just won a contract for them too... great!!

Malc · **Posted:** Wed Jun 10, 2009 22:31

Dudley wrote:

GazChap wrote:

Zardoz wrote:

Do Shell only sell fuels through their own stations or do they sell to other companies? I say this as I only ever refuel at Morrissons, but I don't think they go out themselves to source the oil and refine it.

Morrisons fuel comes from Texaco, but whether they're related to Shell or not I couldn't tell you.

I think Texaco are part of Esso but I'm WAY too lazy to check.

Total, Fina and Elf are the same company

Q8 is Sure is Pace

Tesco are Esso

Also petrol stations are Company owned (ie owned by Shell, BP, Texaco etc) others are Dealer owned (ie owned by a person who has chosen to use a certain fuel company for their fuel) There is no real way of telling which is which from a customer point of view.

Malc

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

Tesco don't share ownership with Esso though. I'm not even sure they even use Esso petrol except in some Esso owned garages that happen to have a Tesco Express.

myp · **Posted:** Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:35

Some Tesco garages use Esso (where you can't use your vouchers or claim Clubcard points) and some have "Tesco" petrol (where you can use your vouchers and claim Clubcard points).

I have no idea where they get the "Tesco" petrol from.

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:37

myp wrote:

I have no idea where they get the "Tesco" petrol from.

Millions of years ago, some things that were alive, ceased to be. Over time, the immense pressure on the remains turned them into oil. This is pumped up to the surface, and refined into the various grades of hydrocarbons. These are then loaded onto ships and taken around the world to depots. Then loaded onto tankers and taken to petrol stations.

NervousPete · **Posted:** Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:38

MaliA wrote:

myp wrote:

I have no idea where they get the "Tesco" petrol from.

Millions of years ago, some things that were alive, ceased to be. Over time, the immense pressure on the remains turned them into oil. This is pumped up to the surface, and refined into the various grades of hydrocarbons. These are then loaded onto ships and taken around the world to depots. Then loaded onto tankers and taken to petrol stations.

And the Zucker-Abrams Award goes to...

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:43

nervouspete wrote:

MaliA wrote:

myp wrote:

I have no idea where they get the "Tesco" petrol from.

Millions of years ago, some things that were alive, ceased to be. Over time, the immense pressure on the remains turned them into oil. This is pumped up to the surface, and refined into the various grades of hydrocarbons. These are then loaded onto ships and taken around the world to depots. Then loaded onto tankers and taken to petrol stations.

And the Zucker-Abrams Award goes to...

EyeFangEwe

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:45

MaliA wrote:

EyeFangEwe

Psst! It actually went to LaceSensor. You've got to smile and clap and pretend he was the right choice. Don't worry though, there's still the retired pirate award to go!

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:47

Grim... wrote:

MaliA wrote:

EyeFangEwe

Psst! It actually went to LaceSensor. You've got to smile and clap and pretend he was the right choice. Don't worry though, there's still the retired pirate award to go!

Shit! I've only gone and done a Jackson.

Malabelm · **Posted:** Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:51

Grim... wrote:

MaliA wrote:

EyeFangEwe

Psst! It actually went to LaceSensor. You've got to smile and clap and pretend he was the right choice. Don't worry though, there's still the retired pirate award to go!

That's going to John Coffey though.

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:55

Cunts. The lot of you.

BikNorton · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 10140

myp wrote:

I have no idea where they get the "Tesco" petrol from.

They get it from the company that wants the least money.

There was that "Tesco petrol ruins your car" thing, that was caused by shipping it in from some "green" supplier in the Netherlands or somewhere.

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Shell, the oil company, execute protestors.
EXECUTE = Kill to death.